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		<title>Robert Bruce and the Mystery of the Lord&#8217;s Supper</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently, I bought and read The Mystery of the Lord&#8217;s Supper from Robert Bruce (1554-1631). I had two reasons for buying &#8230;<p><a href="http://qualitativetheology.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/robert-bruce-and-the-mystery-of-the-lords-supper/">Continue reading &#187;</a></p><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=qualitativetheology.wordpress.com&amp;blog=6758168&amp;post=586&amp;subd=qualitativetheology&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">Recently, I bought and read <em>The Mystery of the Lord&#8217;s Supper </em>from Robert Bruce (1554-1631). <a href="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/robert-bruce.jpg"><img class="alignleft  wp-image-593" title="Robert Bruce" src="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/robert-bruce.jpg?w=196&#038;h=209" alt="" width="196" height="209" /></a>I had two reasons for buying this book. My first, and main, reason was the introduction of Thomas Torrance. He translated and edited the book in 1957. And because I&#8217;m fond of Torrance, I wanted to read his Introduction in the first place. However, my second reason was my expectation of the book itself. So far I didn&#8217;t read anything from Bruce, nor did I know who the man was (Torrance&#8217;s Introduction however is most helpful in this respect), but the fact that he was a contemporary of John Craig made me look on expectantly. And indeed, these sermons of Robert Bruce are fantastic! Here we find a concise reformed eucharistic theology. For the moment I&#8217;ll postpone the exploration of his theology and limit myself to three impressions:</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">1. I&#8217;m fairly acquainted with Calvin&#8217;s sermons and his preaching style. The sermons of Robert Bruce are about three or four decades younger than Calvin&#8217;s, but the difference in style is enormous. It surprised me that Thomas Torrance, who happened to be an expert on Calvin&#8217;s theology, didn&#8217;t mention the difference in his Introduction. It would be unfair to characterize the style of Bruce as &#8216;scholastic&#8217;, but there is undeniably a scholastic touch in these sermons. Calvin&#8217;s sermons are much more exegetical, moving from passage to passage. He sometimes makes use of distinctions as well, but not to the sophisticated degree Bruce does. It seems however, that these sermons are intended somewhat more generally than Calvin&#8217;s Genevan sermons. Anyway, Robert Bruce was an outstanding theologian, so much is sure. Let me give an example. It&#8217;s a passage in which Bruce discusses an objection of his opponents, &#8216;that God by His omnipotence can make the Body of Christ be both in heaven and in the bread at the same time&#8217;. Bruce says that the question at stake is not whether God <em>can</em> do a thing or not, but whether He <em>will </em>do it or not or whether He <em>may will</em> it or not:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">&#8220;These things are of two kinds: First, He many not will those thins which are contrary to His nature, such as to be changeable, to decay, and so on (&#8230;); Secondly, God may not will some things, because He has already decreed the contrary. This is the kind of thing we are now discussing (&#8230;).&#8221; (p.129,130).</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">2. There is another point in his sermons that striked me. It was something I hoped for. Let me call it the &#8216;Scottish flavour&#8217; in the theology of the Lord&#8217;s Supper. I wrote about this some time ago, in relation to the Catechism of John Craig [<a title="link" href="http://qualitativetheology.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/torrance-craig%e2%80%99s-catechism-and-the-lord%e2%80%99s-supper/">link</a>]. With &#8216;Scottish flavour&#8217; I mean an emphasis on at least two things: on the empirical reality of Christ&#8217;s body and on the resurrection of Christ. Again a quote, by way of illustration:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">&#8220;I prove my proposition (about the visibility and palpability of Christ&#8217;s body [AT]) by Christ&#8217;s own words, taken from Luke 24;24,39. In order to persuade the apostles of the reality of His Body, and to prove clearly that it was not a phantom, he uses the argument taken from these two qualities (&#8230;), as if He would say, &#8216;If I am visible and palpable, you may cease to doubt that I have a true body&#8217;. For as the poet says, whom Tertullian cites also for this same purpose: &#8220;Tangere enim et tani, nisi corpus, nulla potest res&#8221; (For nothing can touch or be touched exepct a body).&#8221; (p.125)</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">3. There is another remarkable feature in these sermons. Torrance points to it in his Introduction: &#8216;the doctrine of <em>union with Christ</em> and of <em>our participation in his saving and sanctifying humanity</em>&#8216; (p.23). Those familiar with the work of Thomas Torrance himself, will immediately recognize this theme, which was so important to him. Here we see a part of the roots of this theme of Torrance (the other part being the patristic tradition). Torrance claims this trait as distinctive for both John Calvin and the early Scottish Reformation. A quote once again:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">&#8220;Christ Jesus, the Son of God, in the time appointed took true Flesh from the womb of the virgin, and united Himself with our nature, in a personal union, to the end that our nature, which fell altogether from its integrity in the first Adam, might recover the same in the second Adam &#8211; yes, not only the same, but much greater, as much as our second Adam in every way excels the first.&#8221; (p.123)</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">So, these sermons prove to be a treasure of reformed eucharistic theology. Or, to use the words of Thomas Torrance: &#8220;[T]he very marrow of our sacramental tradition in the Church of Scotland.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>The Lord&#8217;s Supper and Christ&#8217;s participation in our death</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Oct 2011 22:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In about two weeks I will have to give a lecture about death and the Lord&#8217;s Supper. (By the way, that&#8217;s &#8230;<p><a href="http://qualitativetheology.wordpress.com/2011/10/30/the-lords-supper-and-christs-participation-in-our-death/">Continue reading &#187;</a></p><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=qualitativetheology.wordpress.com&amp;blog=6758168&amp;post=567&amp;subd=qualitativetheology&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">In about two weeks I will have to give a lecture about death and the Lord&#8217;s Supper. <em>(By the way, that&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve been silent here for a couple of weeks.)</em> In what sense does the celebration of the Lord&#8217;s Supper remind us of our own death? And in what way is the death of Jesus related to both our own death and the Lord&#8217;s Supper? The focus, thus, is not upon the atoning meaning of Christ&#8217;s death. The question is which meaning the &#8216;mere fact&#8217; of his death has for us and in which way the Lord&#8217;s Supper can reveal that to us.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">I will start with a short passage from Nicholas Wolterstorff&#8217;s book <em>Lament for a son</em>. In this book Wolterstorff describes what happened when he received a phone call that his son Eric had died in a mountain climbing accident. Somewhere in the book he tells about the funeral service. He writes:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">&#8220;We celebrated the Eucharist, that sacrament of God&#8217;s participation in our brokenness. We came forward successively in groups, standing in circles around the coffin, passing the signs of Christ&#8217;s brokenness to each other.&#8221; (p.39,40)</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">The key-word here is &#8216;participation&#8217;. In what sense is the celebration of the Lord&#8217;s Supper a participation of Christ in our brokenness? There are, at least, two possible directions here. One way is to focus upon the Lord&#8217;s Supper as a commemorative ritual. A rite invites us into a kind of participation, so it is argued, that transcends our rationality. We might even argue that in the ritual enacting of the Lord&#8217;s Supper we are &#8211; somehow &#8211; made one with the reality, to which the celebration refers. The problem, however, is located in this &#8216;somehow&#8217;. How do we have to understand that? Is this a kind of &#8216;Traumzeit&#8217; (Josuttis), in which we forget about everything here and now? Or should we think of it as a kind of &#8216;game&#8217;, in which we are playing like children? When a child is playing fireman, he is a fireman. Is it something like this?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">These proposals can&#8217;t convince me. First, they posit a relationship between the ritual and the reality it refers to in terms of a kind of (weak) analogy. And second, in this way we&#8217;ve lost the spiritual reality. There is no appeal to the reality of Christ&#8217;s death and resurrection and no appeal to the reality of our sharing in his death and resurrection. That leads me to an alternative route: the route of exploring the resources of the eucharistic theology in the Reformation. I don&#8217;t think we have exhausted these resources. On the contrary, traditionally much attention is paid to the aspect of the atonement. But there is more to say. Three things, in fact, I&#8217;d like to call attention to in my lecture.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">1. The body of Christ is &#8211; at least for Calvin &#8211; the locus of our salvation. Therefore, Calvin is very insistent that we should lift up our hearts. That is because Christ is in heaven. Calvin does not want to depreciate the role of the senses or of the human body. <a href="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/0b-christ.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-575" title="Michelangelo: Pieta - body of Christ" src="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/0b-christ.jpg?w=300&#038;h=220" alt="" width="300" height="220" /></a>On the contrary, the wounded and tortured body of Christ, the body that tasted death, is for him a very substantial and almost palpable reality. But He is in heaven! There we have to seek Him, not in the elements. And He nourishes us from above&#8230;</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">2. The Lord&#8217;s Supper is for Calvin also a pledge for our own resurrection. In the Catechism of John Craig this accent is even more pronounced. So, the Lord&#8217;s Supper has not only meaning for our souls, but also for our bodies! Because Christ is the Resurrected One, the Supper is a foretaste for our own resurrection. No doubt about that!</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">3. Thomas Torrance, and James Torrance in his trail, developed the view that for Calvin Christ&#8217;s priestly office meant that our worship is included in His worship, our response to God in His. The same applies to the Lord&#8217;s Supper. We are sharing in his death and resurrection, not in an analogical way, but as an ontological reality. In my previous <a title="post" href="http://qualitativetheology.wordpress.com/2011/09/10/did-christ-assume-a-fallen-human-nature/" target="_blank">post</a> I expressed some doubts about this ontological thinking. However, the thought is precious to me, because it underlines the reality of our participation, where the ritual approach puts up with a weak analogy.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Well, in this direction my lecture will move. My question is: what do <em>you</em> think?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[The theology of T.F. Torrance is a catholic theology in the true sense. Not only has he been in conversation with &#8230;<p><a href="http://qualitativetheology.wordpress.com/2011/09/10/did-christ-assume-a-fallen-human-nature/">Continue reading &#187;</a></p><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=qualitativetheology.wordpress.com&amp;blog=6758168&amp;post=538&amp;subd=qualitativetheology&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">The theology of T.F. Torrance is a catholic theology in the true sense. Not only has he been in conversation with theologians from East and West, from the Early Church to the contemporary leading theologians, but he is also catholic in the sense that in general his theological convictions are in agreement with the great doctrines of the Ecumenical Councils. In that light it is the more remarkable that on a few, though not unimportant, doctrines he is in disagreement with the mainstream theological tradition. One suc<a href="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/t-f-torrance.jpg"><img class="size-thumbnail wp-image-551 alignleft" title="T.F. Torrance" src="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/t-f-torrance.jpg?w=181&#038;h=177" alt="" width="181" height="177" /></a>h point is his conviction that Christ assumed a <em>fallen</em> human nature, whereas the standard doctrine maintains that Christ assumed an unfallen human nature. Torrance, of course, had good reasons for believing that his adjustment of the doctrine was necessary. In fact, one of Torrance&#8217;s core motives is his resistance against a logic of reconciliation in terms of &#8216;external relations&#8217;. Sin goes deeper than that; it&#8217;s a matter of ontology. Our very nature is deeply affected by sin. Therefore, Christ&#8217;s redemptive work must be conceived ontologically as well. He assumes not merely our human nature, but our fallen nature, corrupted by sin. By doing that, from birth to resurrection and ascension, he heals our fallen nature.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">I&#8217;m very sympathetic to Torrance&#8217;s theological intentions. However, there are a few problems with his point of view. To make clear what I mean, I will have to appeal to soms logical distinctions. Despite his being acquainted with the latest developments in  science, Torrance didn&#8217;t make use of contemporary developments in semantics and logic. I will raise a few questions that emerge in applying modal logic to Torrance&#8217;s proposal. That doesn&#8217;t mean that these problems are insuperable. To eliminate these problems, however, some additional work has to be made. That, at any rate, is what I&#8217;m saying.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Let us think about the conception of Christ&#8217;s human nature as a <em>fallen </em>nature. The way Christ&#8217;s human nature should be understood, is of course a matter of great complexity and intense debate. But what is &#8216;a human nature&#8217;? Roughly it is something like this: &#8216;a human nature is the set of properties which are essential for being human&#8217;. The qualification &#8216;essential&#8217; is important in this respect. My &#8216;sitting in a chair&#8217; is not the kind of (accidental and contingent) property that is essential. What we mean by &#8217;essential&#8217; is not even a universal property, but  stronger than that: a property which the person or thing in question has in every possible world. If we apply this to the way Torrance views Christ&#8217;s human nature, it raises several questions. Does he mean bij &#8216;fallen nature&#8217;, that &#8216;being fallen&#8217; is an essential property? That however seems very implausible, because it would make the Fall necessary, instead of contingent. Torrance certainly couldn&#8217;t have wanted to claim that. Or could perhaps the distinction of Thomas V. Morris between &#8217;kind-essence&#8217; and &#8217;individual essence&#8217; help here? If we, on the other hand, interpret the &#8216;fallenness&#8217; of Christ&#8217;s human nature as an accidental property, we run into new questions as well. How are we to understand that a nature consists not only of essential, but also (partly) of accidential properties? Moreover, it seems that Torrance needs more than an accidental property for his claim that Christ heals our nature by assuming it, because it would make the healing accidental as well. That is in congruence with the mainstream christian tradition, but does it sufficiently express what Torrance wanted to claim: a kind of ontological healing?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In short, the way Torrance speaks of Christ&#8217;s assumption of a fallen human nature raises several questions in the sphere of (modal) logic and ontology. But then, there is more to ask. For example, how does the &#8216;healing&#8217; work? Torrance, for example, speaks of &#8216;sanctifying&#8217; and &#8216;perfecting&#8217; our nature <em>(Theology in Reconstruction</em>, 248). Somewhat more specific, he says that Christ is in the position to &#8216;transfer what is his to our human nature in him&#8217; (<em>ibid.</em>, 246). In another passage, he focuses on our willing, saying that Christ &#8216;laid hold upon our wayward human will, made it his very own, and bent it back into obedience to, and in oneness with, the holy will of God&#8217; <em>(ibid.,</em> 157). Despite the vivid imagery, new questions arise. Is it correct to speak of human nature , not only as having a will, but as willing (cf. an intriguing post on <a title="Out of Bounds" href="http://theologyoutofbounds.wordpress.com/2011/08/05/christological-predication-natures-do-not-act/">Out of Bounds </a>last month)? Moreover, even if we grant that Christ somehow ontologically bent our human will back, into obedience to God&#8217;s will, why don&#8217;t we see much more fruit in humanity, in the past and present? How can we account for that?</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Once more, I&#8217;m very sympathetic with Torrance&#8217;s intentions. But for the moment I&#8217;m not quite sure whether it is possible to give a satisfying explanation of his particular way of construing Christ&#8217;s redemptive work.</p>
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		<title>Torrance on the sacraments</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In The School of Faith (1959) Torrance discusses the Reformed conception of the Covenant of Grace. He makes in this &#8230;<p><a href="http://qualitativetheology.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/torrance-on-the-sacraments/">Continue reading &#187;</a></p><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=qualitativetheology.wordpress.com&amp;blog=6758168&amp;post=482&amp;subd=qualitativetheology&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">In <em>The School of Faith</em> (1959) Torrance discusses the Reformed conception of the Covenant of Grace. He makes in this regard a sharp distinction between Mediaeval theology, thinking i<a href="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/t-f-torrance-1946.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-516" title="T.F Torrance (1946)" src="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/t-f-torrance-1946.jpg?w=529" alt=""   /></a>n sacramental terms and Reformed theology, thinking in convenantal terms. Whereas Mediaeval theology, according to Torrance, considered the church as the extension of the Incarnation, against the background of a sacramental universe, the Reformers employed the Biblical terminology of the Convenant of Grace and its total fulfilment in the Person and Work of Jezus Christ as the incarnate Son and Word of God (p.lii).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">After citing Karl Barth&#8217;s formula of the Convenant as the inner ground and form of the creation and creation as the outer ground or form of the Convenant and Calvin&#8217;s statement that Godwrapped himself up in earthly signs and symbols, so that the whole of creation is to be regarded as a mirror or theatre, Torrance continues by saying:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">&#8220;Thus while the whole of creation is formed to serve as the sphere of divine self-revelation, it cannot be interpreted or understood our of itself, as if it had an inherent relation of likeness or being to the Truth, but only in the light of the history of the Convenant of Grace and its appointed signs and orders and events in the life of the Convenant people, that is to say, according to its economy prior to the Incarnation and according to its economy after the Incarnation&#8221; (p.liii).</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">In short, Torrance seems to deny any intrinsic connection between the sacramental signs and their signification. That, however, raises several questions. Think, for example, of the Lord&#8217;s Supper. According to Torrance, it&#8217;s signification originates from Divine appointment, e.g. the words of institution spoken by Christ and repeated by the minister every time the Supper is celebrated. True as that is, does that mean that, say, its character as a meal is completely arbitrary? Could the remembrance of Christ&#8217;s death and resurrection as well have been instituted in the form of a shared dance around an old tree? Or would in that case the ritual have had a different meaning, at least partly? I think so.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">It seems that Torrance, in his effort to avoid a sacramentalism based on a kind of natural theology, did cut off, not only the branches of the tree, but also some of its vital roots. Furthermore, while claiming to describe the Reformed position in sacramental theology, he seems to distantiate himself from the position of Calvin. For Calvin makes use of the analogy between our daily eating and drinking and the eating and drinking we have in the Lord&#8217;s Supper (for example in his sermon about Psalm 65, edited in <em>Supplementa Calviniana </em>VII (ed. E. Mülhaupt); p.32-40). Obviously, Calvin doesn´t want to know about an intrinsic sacramental operation. The signs and the rite don´t have an operation on their own, apart from the work of the Holy Spirit. But that does not mean that the relation between the sacramental signs and their signification, between the rite and its operation is completely arbitrary.</p>
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		<title>Calvin on faith and assurance</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In an interesting post on his blog Mirifica Commutatio Bobby Grow writes about Randall Zachman&#8217;s book: The Assurance of Faith: &#8230;<p><a href="http://qualitativetheology.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/calvin-on-faith-and-assurance/">Continue reading &#187;</a></p><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=qualitativetheology.wordpress.com&amp;blog=6758168&amp;post=458&amp;subd=qualitativetheology&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">In an interesting <a title="post" href="http://growrag.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/am-i-really-saved-assurance-in-calvin-luther-questioned/">post</a> on his blog Mirifica Commutatio Bobby Grow writes about Randall Zachman&#8217;s book: <em>The Assurance of Faith: Conscience in het Theology of Martin Luther and John Calvin. </em>Zachman claims that Luther and Calvin intended to ground the assurance of faith in Christ, but that they not completely succeeded in doing that. The problem is, according to Zachman, that both Luther and Calvin operate with a doctrine of limited election. If that is true, than the real question with regard to assurance cannot be answered in christological terms in the end, but only in terms of God&#8217;s election and (secret) counsel. The lamentable result of this: endless efforts (for example by applying the syllogismus practicus) to make this uncertainty undone. Bobby Grow adds to this an advice to &#8216;move out of the voluntaristic theology of both Calvin and Luther&#8217; and to bridge the gap between God’s inner life and outer life with the help of the theologies of Thomas Torrance or Karl Barth.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">I&#8217;m, however, not fully convinced. Let me try to explain why with the help of Calvin&#8217;s sermons and an article of Thomas Torrance. One of the topics Calvin frequently mentions in his sermons is the question of the certainty of our faith. Let me give just one example. In his sermon on Is. 31,1-3 (<em>Supplementa Calviniana </em>III (ed. by F.M. Higman, T.H.L. Parker, L. Thorpe), p.85) Calvin speaks to the Genevan congregation of assurance.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">First, he sums up what God has said and done on our behalf. He says that He rescues us, that He is close to all who ask Him for help, that He has shown us that He is God with us in Jesus Christ, that He never forgets us, that He hears all our prayers. If we are not by now assured, says Calvin, than we are most ungrateful. So, the first step to assurance is looking around and seeing the work God does, every day, in our lives.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">However, he continues by saying that, if God was promising so much in the time of the Law (the Old Testament), we have even more reason to be assured:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">&#8220;Car nous avons l&#8217;asseurance de nostre adoption, d&#8217;autant que nous sommes membres de son Filz unicque, qui est le chef de toute l&#8217;Eglise. La porte de paradis nous est ouverte, d&#8217;autant que nostre Seigneur Jesus Christ est entré au Sanctuaire non point fait de mains d&#8217;hommes, mais eternel, afin d&#8217;estre nostre advocat et intercesseur.&#8221;</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">So, for us, who may share in the Gospel, there is a more direct and secure route to assurance. We may know that we are adopted as children of God, that the paradise has been opened for us, and that we have free entrance into God&#8217;s presence, thanks to our High-Priest, Jesus Christ. Note that Calvin does not separate here between believers and non-believers, elected and non-elected. This is what he says to the congregation in Geneva: you may be sure of God&#8217;s grace, by looking to Christ and what He has done for us all.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">But there is one step further to go. This is where Torrance comes in. In a <em>Festschrift</em> for Peter De Klerk (<em>Calvin&#8217;s Books, ed. by W.H. Neuser, H.J. Selderhuis, W. van &#8216;t Spijker</em>) he wrote an essay titled &#8216;Legal and Evangelical Priests: the Holy Ministry as Reflected in Calvin&#8217;s Prayers&#8217;. It&#8217;s pretty short, but rich and instructive. In this essay he points out that for Calvin ministry involves executing a priestly office, including offering and mediating. In fact, he claims (p.74):</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">&#8220;[W]e can understand in this light how he [Calvin, AT] could regard the sermon not only as a proclamation of the Gospel from the mouth of God but as an offering made to God, assimilated to Christ&#8217;s one self-offering as the Word become flesh now ascended to the Father.&#8221;</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">Let me put it my way. The statement of Torrance implies that for Calvin assurance is not something to figure out in private. No, in the proclamation of the Gospel and the administration of the sacraments, God descends to us in his offering of grace. But, at the same time, these events are invitations to us to ascend, to lift up our hearts to God. To put it differently, assurance of faith is not a private enterprise, but part of the proclamation of the Gospel and the celebration of the Lord&#8217;s Supper. At that moment God Himself is at work, and it is our responsibility to accept that. And, of course, to thank God for it.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes things nicely come together. Thanks to a little discussion about Thomas Torrance and (federal or evangelical) Calvinism, I took &#8230;<p><a href="http://qualitativetheology.wordpress.com/2011/06/21/torrance-craig%e2%80%99s-catechism-and-the-lord%e2%80%99s-supper/">Continue reading &#187;</a></p><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=qualitativetheology.wordpress.com&amp;blog=6758168&amp;post=464&amp;subd=qualitativetheology&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">Sometimes things nicely come together. Thanks to a little <a title="discussion" href="http://evangelicalcalvinist.com/2011/06/15/how-can-you-not-be-an-evangelical-calvinist/#comments" target="_blank">discussion</a> about Thomas Torrance and (federal or evangelical) Calvinism, I took Torrance’s <em>The School of Faith</em> from the shelf. It’s one of his less well known books and it comprises an edition of all the Catechisms that were ‘officially authorised and employed by the Church of Scotland since the Reformation’ (1). It’s was first published in 1959. <a href="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/t-f-torrance-sketch.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-468" title="T.F. Torrance (Sketch)" src="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/t-f-torrance-sketch.jpg?w=155&#038;h=210" alt="" width="155" height="210" /></a>Torrance offers an excellent introduction to these writings in about 125 pages. These pages are in fact a very concise introduction to Torrance’s own theology, especially his thoughts about revelation and natural theology, incarnation and atonement, and his doctrine of the Holy Spirit, the church and the sacraments. It were these topics on which he lectured in the fifties at New College. These strands in his thinking have been attracting less attention then what he said and wrote about the incarnation and atonement and about science and theology.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">In the meantime I’m preparing a lecture about the Lord’s Supper and our mortality. How does the celebration of Christ’s death and resurrection enables us to live, while facing death, in us and around us? While turning over the pages in Torrance’s<em> The School of Faith</em> I stumbled upon Craig’s Catechism from 1581. I read it before and at that time it was completely unknown to me. But it struck me because of his very forceful style, with short questions and answers, but also because of its concreteness. There is quite a lot emphasis on our senses and our body, especially in the (large) section about the sacraments. Like the other Catechisms from the Reformation period, it stresses the fact that the elements, like water, bread, wine, don’t have an intrinsic power or efficacy. However, unlike these other Catechisms, Craig’s Catechism maintains very convincing that the bodily language of the sacraments do have an intrinsic worth. This worth is twofold: first of all epistemological. Consider for example these questions and answers (p.155):</p>
<blockquote><p>Q. How does He (Christ) offer His body and blood?</p>
<p>A. By the Word and Sacraments.</p>
<p>Q. How do we receive His body and blood?</p>
<p>A. By our own lively faith alone.</p>
<p>Q. What follows upon this receiving by faith?</p>
<p>A. That Christ dwells in us, and we in Him.</p>
<p>Q. Is not this done by the Word and Baptism?</p>
<p>A. Yes, but our union with Christ is more evident and manifest here.</p>
<p>Q. Why is it more evident?</p>
<p>A. Because it is expressed by meat and drink joined with us inwardly in our bodies.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:justify;">That’s the first point: the Supper makes the Union with Christ more evident, that is: evident inwardly in our bodies! No Platonic thinking here! No separation between soul and body! We are both body and soul and that’s why God gave us the sacraments! But there is another point to maken (p.157):</p>
<blockquote><p>Q. Should we seek the food of our souls in the elements of bread and wine?</p>
<p>A. No, for they were not given to that end.</p>
<p>Q. To what end then were they given?</p>
<p>A. To lead us directly to Christ, who only is the food of our souls.</p>
<p> Q. What profit should our bodies have by this Sacrament?</p>
<p>A. It is a pledge of our resurrection by Christ.</p>
<p>Q. How is that?</p>
<p>A. Because our bodies are partakers of the sign of life.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:justify;">This is a very remarkable passage! The imagery of a ‘pledge’ is very common in Calvinistic theology. The Lord´s Supper is called a pledge of our salvation, a means to be sure of it. But, to the best of my knowledge, Calvin nowhere says that the Lord´s Supper is a pledge of our bodily resurrection. No wonder then, that Craig let his pupils ask: “How is that?” And his supreme answer: “Because our bodies are partakers of the sign of life”. Before this, Craig has explained that the giving of the bread and wine means a spiritual feeding of our souls with Christ’s body and blood (p.156). The ‘close conjunction’ with meat and drink means ‘the spiritual union which we have in Jesus Christ’. But there is also a bodily conjunction, so to speak. And that conjunction means participation in Christ’s bodily resurrection. We share in the sign of life!</p>
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		<title>Wolterstorff on the Reformation</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently I bought Wolterstorff&#8221;s collection of essays about Liturgy, Justice, Church, and World, titled: Hearing the Call (Mark R. Gornik &#8230;<p><a href="http://qualitativetheology.wordpress.com/2011/05/10/wolterstorff-on-the-reformation/">Continue reading &#187;</a></p><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=qualitativetheology.wordpress.com&amp;blog=6758168&amp;post=435&amp;subd=qualitativetheology&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">Recently I bought Wolterstorff&#8221;s collection of essays about Liturgy, Justice, Church, and World, titled: <em>Hearing the Call</em> (Mark R. Gornik &amp; Gregory Thompson (eds.); Eerdmans, Grand Rapids &#8211; 2011). It r<a href="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/9780802865250.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-436" title="Hearing the Call" src="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/9780802865250.jpg?w=100&#038;h=150" alt="" width="100" height="150" /></a>eally is a good read. Most of the essays have been published in the course of the past 40 years. However, I was attracted by an unpublished essay: &#8216;The Political Ethic of the Reformers&#8217;. In the Acknowledgements it is called &#8216;an unpublished essay and undated &#8211; I would guess in the 1970s&#8217;. I don&#8217;t know who the &#8216;I&#8217; is here &#8211; Wolterstorff himself (probably) or one of the editors (less likely) &#8211; but I would date it in the early 1980&#8242;s. The reason is this: two of the books which are mentioned in the text did appear in resp. 1981 (Alysdair McIntyre, <em>After Virtue</em>) and 1982 (Harro Höpfl, <em>The Christian Polity of John Calvin</em>).</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">I wrote <a title="before" href="http://qualitativetheology.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/wolterstorff-on-calvin-on-the-lords-supper/" target="_blank">before</a> about Wolterstorff distinction between <em>presence</em> and <em>action</em>, with regard to the Lord&#8217;s Supper. The essay on Political Ethic of the Reformers made it clear to me that this distinction is part of Wolterstorff&#8217;s perception of the history of the Reformation. Let me quote a few key-phrases:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">I suggest that in the Reformation we see the beginnings of a fundamental contrast to the medieval understanding of the relation between God and humankind. (&#8230;) For the medievals, the salvation for which we long and which is the true end of all humankind is the Vision of god. For the Reformers, the salvation  for which we long and which is the true end of all humankind is our participation in the Kingdom of God. (337)</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">This has a lot of implications. About one of these Wolterstorff says:</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">What will also have to be re-thought in this Kingdom of God perspective is the nature and function of revelation. For one thing, revelation will be demoted from the all-embracing, looming importance that it had in the classical Vision of God theologies. There revelation, once creation had occurred, was the principal engagement between God and us. But in the Kingdom of God perspective, God is seen as acting throughout history for the redemption of God&#8217;s wayward and suffering human creatures. Redemption is here the central engagement. Revelation, apart from that which occurs in creation, is an accompaniment to redemption, whereby God makes clear to us what God asks of us and what God does for us. And in so far as God&#8217;s revelation is the manifestation to us of God&#8217;s will for us, hearing God rather than seeing God will seem the appropriate metaphor.</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">So, it turns out that the distinction between <em>presence</em> and <em>action</em> for Wolterstorff is connected with, or maybe even rooted in, a perspective on the difference between medieval and reformed theology. It´s the difference in emphasis on God´s nature versus his deeds, on revalation versus redemption, the vision of God´s essence versus the hearing of God´s Word. More precisely stated, the distinction between <em>presence </em>and <em>action</em> has everything to do with the very conception of God. According to Wolterstorff for example, thinking of God in terms of timeless eternity can´t do justice to the biblical history of his mighty deeds.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;"><a href="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/nicholas_wolterstorff_3.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-447" title="Nicholas_Wolterstorff_3" src="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/nicholas_wolterstorff_3.jpg?w=529" alt=""   /></a>Wolterstorff offers much more in this essay than I mentioned here (a critical discussion with Alisdair McIntyre, good thoughts about how society and politics were organized in the Middle Ages and the Reformation, and so forth). However, these thoughts on the new perspective in Reformation theology are very stimulating on their own.</p>
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		<title>Triple John</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The early years of John Calvin have attracted a lot of attention. One reason for that fact is the lack &#8230;<p><a href="http://qualitativetheology.wordpress.com/2011/04/22/triple-john/">Continue reading &#187;</a></p><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=qualitativetheology.wordpress.com&amp;blog=6758168&amp;post=424&amp;subd=qualitativetheology&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">The early years of John Calvin have attracted a lot of attention. One reason for that fact is the lack of hard evidence. We know, for example, hardly anything of value about Calvin&#8217;s education. Y<a href="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/collc3a8ge-montaigu.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-426" title="Collège Montaigu" src="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/collc3a8ge-montaigu.jpg?w=529" alt=""   /></a>es, we know that he studied at Collège Montaigu in Paris. But what was his curriculum? And who were his teachers? We don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">But we&#8217;d like to know it for sure. So, there are quite a lot of hypotheses. One persistent hypothesis is the one that describes a considerable influence to John Maior (or Maïr). This hypothesis has been en vogue during a couple of decades. It has been supported by François Wendel, Willem Dankbaar, but above all by Karl Reuter. Reuter made a case for it in his book <em>Das Grundverständnis der Theology Calvins</em> (1963). He claimed that Major&#8217;s influence upon Calvin could be proved by several key doctrinal positions of the latter, such as his doctrine of divine providence, his doctrine of sin and justification, but above all his &#8216;anti-pelagian&#8217; doctrine of God. Behind the back of John Major he discerned several theologians and philosophers: Thomas Bradwardine and Gregory of Rimini. Major&#8217;s influence on Calvin is said to be &#8216;ockhamistic&#8217;, but also &#8216;scotistic&#8217;. Indeed, that&#8217;s the third John: John Duns Scotus. The supposed influence of John Duns Scotus, via John Major, on John Calvin has been widespread. Even the famous scholar Heiko A. Oberman was convinced of a fundamental connection between Duns and Calvin.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Is there evidence for this connection? Bruce Gordon is very obvious in his biography of John Calvin (2009):</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">&#8220;It has been suggested that he studied Thomas Aquinas, Duns Scotus, Gregory of Rimini and other key luminaries of medieval theology, but again nothing can be established with certainty. It is not even known wheter he studied theology in Paris&#8221; (p.8).</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">And T.H.L. Parker says in his biography of Calvin (1975):</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">&#8220;It is further conjectured that the Scottish theologian, John Major, who was a regent (i.e. professor) at Montaigu between 1525 and 1531, taught the young Calvin. One or two writers even go so far as to assert that Major taught Calvin theology. The only foundation for the notion is that Major and Calvin were contemporary at Montaigu (&#8230;)&#8221;. (p.13).</p>
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<p style="text-align:justify;">The definitive verdict had been spoken nearly a decade before Parker wrote his book. In his book <em>Le Jeune Calvin</em> (1966; transl. The Young Calvin) Alexandre Ganoczy investigated all of Calvin&#8217;s early writings. But he didn&#8217;t find any traces of John Major, not to mention John Duns Scotus or other medieval theologians, except two of them: Gratianus and Petrus Lombardus. Both of them wrote a textbook on canon law resp. theology. Calvin knew these books and quoted them extensively in his 1536 <em>Institutio</em>. In short, John Major&#8217;s influence on John Calvin seems to be very limited. And as far as the influence of Duns is concerned, it seems quite certain that Calvin didn&#8217;t read him up to 1536. Maybe, he read him later. But that&#8217;s another question.</p>
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		<title>Paul Helm on Synchronic Contingency</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As I wrote before Helm&#8217;s Deep is one of the blogs I frequently read. In his post at the beginning &#8230;<p><a href="http://qualitativetheology.wordpress.com/2011/04/12/paul-helm-on-synchronic-contingency/">Continue reading &#187;</a></p><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=qualitativetheology.wordpress.com&amp;blog=6758168&amp;post=396&amp;subd=qualitativetheology&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">As I wrote before Helm&#8217;s Deep is one of the blogs I frequently read. In his post at the beginning of this month, Paul Helm discusses the notion of &#8216;contingency&#8217;. He makes a distinction between two concepts of contingency: logical contingency and synchronic contingency. C<a href="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/dsc_0106a.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-405" title="Antonie Vos" src="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/dsc_0106a.jpg?w=118&#038;h=150" alt="" width="118" height="150" /></a>oncerning the latter, he mentions the name of John Duns Scotus and the advocates of his thinking. The notion of synchronic contingency in Duns has been (re)discovered in the early 1980&#8242;s, simultaneously,  by Jaako Hintiika (Helsinki) and Antonie Vos (Utrecht). Vos was one of my teachers in Utrecht.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">However, Paul Helm is fairly critical about the concept of synchronic contingency. Why? In his <a title="God and the Limits of Explanation" href="http://paulhelmsdeep.blogspot.com/2011/04/god-and-limits-of-explanation.html" target="_blank">post</a> he gives two reasons for his critique. The first is this: &#8220;An oddity about this that immediately springs to mind is that Scotus applies a temporal adjective to the activity of a non-temporal being.&#8221; But what&#8217;s odd here? In fact, as Helm himself notes, this way of applying temporal adjectives to God&#8217;s willing and acting has been part of a broad theological tradition. Helm refers to the idea of the divine decrees and the question of its order, as it has been worked out in the reformed tradition. So, his argument turns out to be not an argument about synchronic contingency after all, but, at most, an argument about applying temporal terms to an eternal (that is: timeless) God.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">What about Helm&#8217;s second argument? Helm claims:</p>
<blockquote><p>Similarly, we might attempt to parse synchronic contingency along the following lines: at the same eternal ‘moment’, given that God chose to bring about X he could (in exactly similar circumstances) have chosen Y. This is divine freedom it is said. But then, do ‘circumstances’ apply to God as they do to us mortals? Surely not. God does not find himself in sets of circumstances, as we do, and so he does not the task of coping with them, as we do.</p></blockquote>
<p style="text-align:justify;">Once again Helm seems to work with a confused conception of synchronic contingency. He seems to explane these &#8217;circumstances&#8217;  in a rather &#8216;psychological&#8217; way. At least, that&#8217;s what the word &#8216;coping&#8217; suggests. Does he think of those circumstances as influences on God&#8217;s willing or His motivational structure?<img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-406" title="Paul Helm" src="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/helm.jpg?w=529" alt=""   /> But that is of course not the way any medieval (or reformed) theologian could have been thinking. God is the ´prima causa´. What then could Helm mean with &#8216;circumstances&#8217;? The only alternative which I can come up with, is that Helm thinks of the set of all logical possibilities, which God (necessarily) knows. They &#8216;determine&#8217; in a certain sense God&#8217;s willing and choosing. However, if that is what he means, the word &#8216;coping&#8217; doesn&#8217;t seem very appropriate. God isn&#8217;t coping with these logical possible states of affairs. What´s at stake in the notion of synchronic contingency in relation to God´s willing, is that He perfectly knows all logical possible states of affairs and chooses one possible world (a set of possible state of affairs), although He could have chosen differently.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">So, I don&#8217;t think Helm produced sound arguments against synchronic contingency. His real arguments we are waiting for.</p>
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		<title>Wolterstorff on Calvin on the Lord&#8217;s Supper</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a tremendous respect for Nicholas Wolterstorff. Not only for the quantity and the quality of his work, but &#8230;<p><a href="http://qualitativetheology.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/wolterstorff-on-calvin-on-the-lords-supper/">Continue reading &#187;</a></p><img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=qualitativetheology.wordpress.com&amp;blog=6758168&amp;post=367&amp;subd=qualitativetheology&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align:justify;">I have a tremendous respect for Nicholas Wolterstorff. Not only for the quantity and the quality of his work, but also for its diversity. He is one of very few philosophers who has been r<a href="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/wolterstorff.jpg"><img class="alignright size-thumbnail wp-image-376" title="Wolterstorff" src="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/wolterstorff.jpg?w=127&#038;h=150" alt="" width="127" height="150" /></a>eflecting upon the phenonemon of &#8216;liturgy&#8217;. Besides, he has read a good deal of Calvin. Not only his Institution, but also his commentaries.<a href="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/wolterstorff.jpg"></a><a href="http://qualitativetheology.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/wolterstorff-2007.jpg"></a></p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">He offers some very interesting remarks on Calvin´s liturgy of the Lord´s Supper. According to Wolterstorff, the only way to fully understand his liturgy of the Lord´s Supper is to think of it, not merely in terms of presence, but (also) of action. I´m inclined to agree with him. Calvin does speak of the Lord´s Supper in his sermons in terms of (divine) action. He claims repeatedly for example that the Lord´s Supper is a testimony of the Holy Spirit. He assures and consoles us. However, one of the key terms of Calvin´s thinking about the Lord´s Supper is the word ´substance´. He uses it quite frequently, and (that´s important as well) in key phrases. It´s a difficult word to translate. Calvin obviously doesn´t think of ´substance´ in terms of scholastic definitions. Sometimes it means ´content´ or something like ´the real thing´. One is inclined to translate it in some passages as ´(real) presence´. That&#8217;s the point Calvin wants to stress repeatedly: it&#8217;s Christ Himself who is present and giving Himself in the Lord&#8217;s Supper.</p>
<p style="text-align:justify;">If that, however, is correct, the assertion of Wolterstorff should be reformulated. It´s not a matter of presence or action, but of action through presence. It´s the real presence of Christ, through his Spirit, that consoles and assures us. I don&#8217;t think Wolterstorff would disagree with this. He would, I suspect, ask a couple of questions. For example: What kind of presence are we talking about? Is it a kind of &#8216;deputized action&#8217; (compare Wolterstorff&#8217;s <em>Divine Discourse, </em>43vv.)? Or should we think of God &#8216;appropriating&#8217; our celebration of the Lord&#8217;s Supper (<em>Divine Discourse</em>, 51vv.)? I&#8217;m not sure Wolterstorff would suggest this line of thought. I&#8217;m however quite sure Calvin wouldn&#8217;t be satisfied with it. He believed in a stronger notion of presence: both real and spiritual.</p>
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